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PostSubject: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeSat 19 Dec 2015, 10:58 pm

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Clan founded December 8, 2012

Welcome to the eXclusive thread! In this clan, our main focus is to form a strong group of players who can play together both casually and competitively. We have agreed to keep a small member count in order to ensure every player gets an opportunity to participate in clan events.

Each member of our crew represents excellence in racing, wasting, or both.




Our crew colors are Grey and Black. (Interchangeable)
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeSat 19 Dec 2015, 11:05 pm

RAD1 wrote:
We all saw what happened today. Let's get practicing.

Seconded
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeTue 22 Dec 2015, 4:34 am

Good luck in eX, $infulBliss! Have a fun time
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeWed 23 Dec 2015, 5:45 am

Just a question,Didn't eX declare TA?I just saw it but now it's not present there, maybe deleted?,it was not a dream i guess Razz
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeWed 23 Dec 2015, 6:39 am

Zuko wrote:
Just a question,Didn't eX declare TA?I just saw it but now it's not present there, maybe deleted?,it was not a dream i guess Razz

We did, but they declined.

Now I'm hearing you guys will war us after NR and HS, though.
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeWed 23 Dec 2015, 8:26 am

Our glorious leader, SinfulBliss wrote:
Zuko wrote:
Just a question,Didn't eX declare TA?I just saw it but now it's not present there, maybe deleted?,it was not a dream i guess Razz

We did, but they declined.

Now I'm hearing you guys will war us after NR and HS, though.
We will do for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeWed 23 Dec 2015, 9:14 am

There is going to be another proper war with NR?
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeWed 23 Dec 2015, 5:29 pm

chand72 wrote:
There is going to be another proper war with NR?

SB was referring to Team Aero finishing their war with Night Raid.

Anyways, we will be taking some time to practice and re-organize before we war again.
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all the best rad1
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeThu 24 Dec 2015, 8:06 am

http://exclusivenfmm.forumotion.com/t169-preparing-for-2016

Mandatory read for all crew members. Plan will set in effect in 2016.
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeThu 24 Dec 2015, 6:52 pm

RAD1 wrote:
http://exclusivenfmm.forumotion.com/t169-preparing-for-2016

Mandatory read for all crew members. Plan will set in effect in 2016.

2016 initiative boys Cool Lez do it.
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeSat 26 Dec 2015, 8:45 am

Congratz on Clan Mod Desire!
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Congratz Desire!
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeSun 27 Dec 2015, 4:27 am

Steam has joined eX.
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeSun 27 Dec 2015, 5:17 am

All the best in eX,Steam Smile.It's good that you and Our glorious leader, SinfulBliss are together again Razz
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeSun 27 Dec 2015, 5:10 pm

As you can probably assume from my topic, I don't think this is a good idea. Here is why:

1. Damage intake was not the only thing that was modified

    While his damage intake caused the most attention, it was clear that it was not the only thing that was modified. Just because he was taking normal damage, does not mean he's legitimate. If you look at the Elites Reborn wars,  He pretended  to dodge, so that people would not suspect that he was using ghost mode. This is a problem because if we look back and see him dodge, we can not tell if he actually dodged in time, or if it was his ghost mode that kept him through it all. It probably wouldn't have been brought up if people didn't suspect him beforehand and seen ghost mode in action to come to that conclusion. Not to mention, the fact that it can be turned on/off at will is cause for concern. Yeah, sometimes he might get annihilated to show that he's not hacking, but it doesn't mean he's clean. I doubt thefew games you had with foreshadow a change. I think it is very likely he'll just be more cautious with how he uses modifications.

2. He's been at since 2012:

I'm sure almost everyone that was around at that time, noticed that ever since Raza changed his name to Steam, a lot of things have been sketchy. I'm not sure if he hacked before that, because he would teleport all over the place making it impossible to tell what was going on. The point is, he's been at it for a long time. Now, the greatest of addictions can be overcome, but more often than not, people do not overcome them.

3. He's never stepped forward about it

Despite the fact that it has become an accepted theory, he's never came forward and took the blame for what he's done. Now, how do you expect someone that wouldn't even admit that he's in the wrong to change?

4. He's a liar

Does anyone even remember how many times he's denied hacking and lied further to make whatever happened seem legitimate? How about the amount of times times he has stated that he will leave the game? No matter how many times he's accused and how obvious it seems that his car is superior to what it should be, he continuously denies it for "lack of evidence".  Apparently anything short of hacking his computer and identifying the exact values, is "lack of evidence". Personally, I have lost count of how many times he's lied and for that, I don't see why you should trust him. You know what they say,
"Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me".

5. He's rude

Now, I won't deny that it is good to talk to him about college, issues and whatnot because he can relate to those things, but it doesn't change him as a gamer. Whether it is shaming people for rejecting wars against his clan(s), or playing victim whenever he's accused, he would always make rude, unnecessary comments. Not to mention, if a clan manages to defeat him despite the modifications, he'll start rambling on about how "he lost interest" and generally try to devalue their achievement. While that might be the case, it does not change the fact that he could have simply said he's lost interest beforehand, and let someone replace him. It does not change the fact that the other clan was better, even for that particular war, and some cases, that particular GAME. There are ways to deal with criticism without being rude, but he chooses to take the easy way out ( sound similar to something he's been doing..?)

6. History

We have already seen another player hack, deny it multiple times and eventually admit to doing it and pretending to be reformed, but then he continued  to a lesser extent.  For example, instead of modifying his grip, he would increase powersave to throw off whoever is accusing him. Now I won't name that person since he does not remain relevant to the clan ( nor am I even sure if he finally stopped or not), but Steam has hacked a lot longer than that person and imo that person is a better player than Steam. Basically, I find a change rather unlikely.

7. Other Clans won't respect you

Assuming it is true that he decided to stop hacking. Do you think everyone will just let it go? Or do you think with every victory people will wonder if it was legitimately achieved?



Personally, I think after cheating so many players out of their victories, he should have to go at least 6 months away from the clan community hack-free to be even considered back. Right now, this sets an example that hacking is okay and goes unpunished.



Now,

I'm not planning on writing a Does Steam Hack V2 if he continues anyway, I will just follow my own advice and avoid him. I am merely giving advise, please do not be offended if you disagree.
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeSun 27 Dec 2015, 5:29 pm

Prayers,

Thanks for taking the time to show your concern.

Steam has promised to record the wars he is in in full desktop, and he will likely be using Phy Addons. He said he would be fine with recording before he even opens NFM, with no pauses in recording. Since no one has fixed the Phy Addon files, and since Steam doesn't know Java to any substantial degree, it wouldn't be possible for him to edit this client.

Cheat Engine and other hacking methods would be impossible due to the full desktop recording.

Ghost mode would be outright impossible if he recorded as well.

Further, RAD plans to sit Steam out if a clan refuses to play us with him in it. However, I'd encourage other clans to give him a chance. Considering he'll do the things mentioned above, there is very little room for him to hack even if he really wanted to. When you see him on, ask him for a 1v1 or something and test the waters. I'm sure you'll agree that, whether or not he was hacking before, he's certainly clean now.
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeSun 27 Dec 2015, 5:38 pm

Prayers wrote:

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I understand that many people are concerned with the addition of Steam to our roster. Before I go on, let me inform everyone that recruiting Steam was not a personal decision.

Unless our clan is especially inactive, all new recruits must pass by majority vote. My role in Steam's recruitment was only to inform everyone of his request to join, and keep track of votes. I assume everything you stated was taken into consideration when votes were given.

Now, my clan recognized that Steam has a history of suspected hacking. Whether these claims are accurate or not depends on who you ask, but the fact of the matter is that these claims are there, and for that reason, some clans may be less than enthusiastic about accepting a war declaration from us. As a compromise, our members (Steam included) have agreed to keep Steam out of war if necessary. As SB stated, we would like for Steam to be able to play, but if sitting him out is the only way we will be able to war, then so be it.

It may take some time for Steam to prove himself clean, so for now, I will keep an asterisk by his username on the roster to indicate his current position as far as wars stand. Steam has already agreed to record his desktop during wars, as SB stated.

I appreciate your concern, Prayers. If there is anything else you have to say regarding this matter, feel free to post it here.
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeSun 27 Dec 2015, 7:35 pm

RAD1 wrote:
Prayers wrote:

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It may take some time for Steam to prove himself clean, so for now, I will keep an asterisk by his username on the roster to indicate his current position as far as wars stand. Steam has already agreed to record his desktop during wars, as SB stated.

And what if he doesn't? I'm just curious about that, because this situation has happened before, and Steam did not upload or record what was required successfully, yet a mere piece of the war which was 1 out of 6 games, nothing else. Yet no action was taken.
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeSun 27 Dec 2015, 7:41 pm

Ultimato wrote:
RAD1 wrote:
Prayers wrote:

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It may take some time for Steam to prove himself clean, so for now, I will keep an asterisk by his username on the roster to indicate his current position as far as wars stand. Steam has already agreed to record his desktop during wars, as SB stated.

And what if he doesn't? I'm just curious about that, because this situation has happened before, and Steam did not upload or record what was required successfully, yet a mere piece of the war which was 1 out of 6 games, nothing else. Yet no action was taken.

Very, very simple: If he doesn't record when the terms of the war are for him to record and upload, the war is discounted.
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeSun 27 Dec 2015, 7:46 pm

Our glorious leader, SinfulBliss wrote:
Ultimato wrote:
RAD1 wrote:
Prayers wrote:

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It may take some time for Steam to prove himself clean, so for now, I will keep an asterisk by his username on the roster to indicate his current position as far as wars stand. Steam has already agreed to record his desktop during wars, as SB stated.

And what if he doesn't? I'm just curious about that, because this situation has happened before, and Steam did not upload or record what was required successfully, yet a mere piece of the war which was 1 out of 6 games, nothing else. Yet no action was taken.

Very, very simple: If he doesn't record when the terms of the war are for him to record and upload, the war is discounted.

In addition, he will be removed from the crew.
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeMon 28 Dec 2015, 6:13 pm

Ultimato wrote:
RAD1 wrote:
Prayers wrote:

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It may take some time for Steam to prove himself clean, so for now, I will keep an asterisk by his username on the roster to indicate his current position as far as wars stand. Steam has already agreed to record his desktop during wars, as SB stated.

And what if he doesn't? I'm just curious about that, because this situation has happened before, and Steam did not upload or record what was required successfully, yet a mere piece of the war which was 1 out of 6 games, nothing else. Yet no action was taken.

What IF? Simple. Just kick him on the spot, redo the games, and not act like the world is about to end. Not too hard is it? Yeah, it's not.

Good reasoning RAD and SB; all the best Steam.
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeMon 28 Dec 2015, 6:21 pm

Incursio wrote:
Ultimato wrote:
RAD1 wrote:
Prayers wrote:

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It may take some time for Steam to prove himself clean, so for now, I will keep an asterisk by his username on the roster to indicate his current position as far as wars stand. Steam has already agreed to record his desktop during wars, as SB stated.

And what if he doesn't? I'm just curious about that, because this situation has happened before, and Steam did not upload or record what was required successfully, yet a mere piece of the war which was 1 out of 6 games, nothing else. Yet no action was taken.

What IF? Simple. Just kick him on the spot, redo the games, and not act like the world is about to end. Not too hard is it? Yeah, it's not.

Good reasoning RAD and SB; all the best Steam.

And what if he isn't kicked? Not saying RAD would do this, but back in ER no action was taken against Steam for not uploading war recordings.

Why bother with Steam? The most controversial, reputed player of the game, and for what - some good wasting skills? No, don't try and hone your own skills or recruit legit players. Nice.
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeMon 28 Dec 2015, 6:26 pm

Enigma wrote:
Incursio wrote:
Ultimato wrote:
RAD1 wrote:
Prayers wrote:

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It may take some time for Steam to prove himself clean, so for now, I will keep an asterisk by his username on the roster to indicate his current position as far as wars stand. Steam has already agreed to record his desktop during wars, as SB stated.

And what if he doesn't? I'm just curious about that, because this situation has happened before, and Steam did not upload or record what was required successfully, yet a mere piece of the war which was 1 out of 6 games, nothing else. Yet no action was taken.

What IF? Simple. Just kick him on the spot, redo the games, and not act like the world is about to end. Not too hard is it? Yeah, it's not.

Good reasoning RAD and SB; all the best Steam.

And what if he isn't kicked? Not saying RAD would do this, but back in ER no action was taken against Steam for not uploading war recordings.

Why bother with Steam? The most controversial, reputed player of the game, and for what - some good wasting skills? No, don't try and hone your own skills or recruit legit players. Nice.
To be fair though, back in ER it was not a part of any pact with an opposing leader to have him record. It was between the two of us, and I did give him quite some abuse for not recording the both game.
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PostSubject: Re: eXclusive   eXclusive Icon_minitimeMon 28 Dec 2015, 6:29 pm

Enigma wrote:
Incursio wrote:
Ultimato wrote:
RAD1 wrote:
Prayers wrote:

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It may take some time for Steam to prove himself clean, so for now, I will keep an asterisk by his username on the roster to indicate his current position as far as wars stand. Steam has already agreed to record his desktop during wars, as SB stated.

And what if he doesn't? I'm just curious about that, because this situation has happened before, and Steam did not upload or record what was required successfully, yet a mere piece of the war which was 1 out of 6 games, nothing else. Yet no action was taken.

What IF? Simple. Just kick him on the spot, redo the games, and not act like the world is about to end. Not too hard is it? Yeah, it's not.

Good reasoning RAD and SB; all the best Steam.

And what if he isn't kicked? Not saying RAD would do this, but back in ER no action was taken against Steam for not uploading war recordings.

Why bother with Steam? The most controversial, reputed player of the game, and for what - some good wasting skills? No, don't try and hone your own skills or recruit legit players. Nice.

It's quite obvious why nothing was done in ER, to bring up a small portion basically everyone there were good friends with him; Phy and SB in particular. That doesn't really matter, I understand it totally.

Putting that aside, RAD just said he will remove him as stated above, no? RAD would never go back on his word, especially if it's Steam we are talking about.

You can't stop me from posting about this, nor do I have any recruiting business involved here.
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