Does Steam Hack?

Guest

This issue has been discussed briefly numerous times in the past few years, but never in depth. We figured a forum would be a good place to start a discussion, so here goes.

When people watch movies multiple times, they notice things they did not originally see the first time around. So we decided to do the same with Steam's gameplay. In the past, it was only the low damage intake being discussed. (Which is debatable, since everyone occasionally takes 5% damage in a hit from something like a tap on the back) In short, instead of focusing solely on the what (damage intake), We will discuss the why as well as other strange things.
We suspect that Steam of the following:

buffed speed
buffed Acceleration
buffed Grip
Modified Hitbox ( This stat/physic w/e it is actually exists, but with a different name)
Modified Endurance/ Damage intake
Ghost Mode

This topic will be mainly gifs used in 6 separate sections :

Spectacular
Speed/Acc/Grip/
Comparisons
Headons
Weird Hits
Ghost Mode

We have provided a spoiler containing YouTube links with commentary for those interested at the end of the topic. Also, keep in mind that there are a lot of clips on this topic, so we suggest opening only 1 spoiler at a time to prevent lagg.

Spectacular:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Speed/Acc/Grip

Spoiler:

Comparisons:

Spoiler:

Headons:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Weird Hits:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Ghost Mode:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Youtube with Commentary ( Consider it "extra credit")

Spoiler:

No commentary here because this is a summary of the war, not the entire war.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

tl;dr:
Credits to Dexterity for helping with gifs, YouTube,replicating some of the clips above as well as helping me form the topic
Credits to Ultimato for confirming that a hitbox stat exists
We believe that Steam hacks, if you agree I suggest you do the following:
1. Refuse to war clan(s) that he is in.
2. Remove any losses you have had in wars he participated in.
3. Exclude him from tournaments

Subject: Re: Does Steam Hack? Fri 18 Sep 2015, 11:11 pm

Even if this is true, what do you wish to accomplish based on this? (Other than if steam hacks)

Guest

The Great Daleburg I wrote:: tl;dr:
We believe that Steam hacks, if you agree I suggest you do the following:
1. Refuse to war clan(s) that he is in.
2. Remove any losses you have had in wars he participated in.
3. Exclude him from tournaments

I believe he hacks and I will be doing this. I am looking for fair gameplay for all so I thought I should warn others.

Subject: Re: Does Steam Hack? Sat 19 Sep 2015, 12:55 am

We weren't being stupid at all when we saw with our own eyes the bs that was occurring... With no valid reason either since he is in the US... I'm gonna go ahead and agree with you two, there's no way in hell that he or any other can give a proper explanation for all of that.

I don't personally dislike you at all Steam, you are great to have around and all, but the fact remains that you play unfairly.

Subject: Re: Does Steam Hack? Sat 19 Sep 2015, 1:01 am

we all know he hacks, end of story it's not like any1 believed him anyway besides his fuckbuddy and his crew (no offense, mb for profanity)
besides, him and his crew is basically RIP in pepperoni and i think everyone has learned not to war them, case is closed tbh, wow lol, i'm one of those people who don't even care about grammar in their posts anymore lol, but yeah i see why you created the topic, i also agree with you, and seeing that sinfulbliss was online, he's either going to argue or just give up and admit, so be prepared

Subject: Re: Does Steam Hack? Sat 19 Sep 2015, 2:23 am

Why are you beating up a dead horse?

Guest

ApexNova wrote:: Why are you beating up a dead horse?

I'm not sure I understand. I prefer people stating exactly what they mean rather than using expressions like that. Do you mean:

1. "Why talk about Steam when he's gone?"
2. "Why discuss something already discussed?" or "Why discuss something that everyone knows"
?

1. I have seen Steam on nfmm after the war against Most Wanted, so I don't think it is a "dead horse". Plus, Steam said he would leave nfmm in the past multiple times, so if he said it again, I'm not sure if I should believe it. If it is true, you can't blame me for ignoring the boy who cried wolf.

2. I don't think it was ever truly "discussed". From what I have seen, someone would accuse Steam of hacking after a suspicious hit , it would then quickly move away from that topic and turn into an argument. A forum is usually a good place for discussion, not chatting so I figured this time it could be an actual discussion,rather than personal insults.

If you mean that most of the community believe that Steam hacks nfmm, I figured I would post a solution. My clan ( and others) have participated in wars which I consider illegitimate, so I figured I would encourage others to, just avoid him and anyone else that prevents people from having fair games. As DGS said, I don't mind Steam as a person, he's a cool guy but it doesn't change the fact that he doesn't play fair. By "Boycotting" him, he would either find another game to hack or try to play fair.

Subject: Re: Does Steam Hack? Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:09 am

Look guys, it's been the joke of NFMM for YEARS now and I have a personally STRONG dislike for Steam himself, it's sort of been the unspoken thing everyone kind of knew and accepted. We've joked for years that Steam had "Walmart Connection" which was basically so shitty it seemed he would glitch out and take 0% damage when compared to other players.

NFMM also has some issues when spectating other players... I've seen it when I was spectating a match and (not gonna name names) someone appeared to have accelerated VERY quickly much like the way Steam did.

It's gone on for so long it's almost ridiculous and someone really should have investigated this much sooner... looking at you the ENTIRE Unleashed clan, I mean really come on now. To make a stink of it now would feel like it's already too late to undo all the damage he's done over the years.

Subject: Re: Does Steam Hack? Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:12 am

Fair enough, but why Steam in particular, especially during a time when other known "hackers" are using their "cheats" in lobbies and that Steam has fallen into inactivity?

Subject: Re: Does Steam Hack? Sat 19 Sep 2015, 3:48 am

Sano, the holy emperor wrote:: It's gone on for so long it's almost ridiculous and someone really should have investigated this much sooner... looking at you the ENTIRE Unleashed clan, I mean really come on now. To make a stink of it now would feel like it's already too late to undo all the damage he's done over the years.

People have tried before, but they always end up in an unpleasant situation between Steam, usually ending up in a flame war. I do truly wish that this should have been done way before, but no one actually cared as much. Many people just accepted that his connection was the explanation to his obscure damage intake. Only when until Steam moved to the United States, many people expected a "normal" Steam so-to-speak. We, personally, were taken aback when we noticed BS even when his trail was short which made us all so even more suspicious.

Apex wrote:: Fair enough, but why Steam in particular, especially during a time when other known "hackers" are using their "cheats" in lobbies and that Steam has fallen into inactivity?

I understand, Cheat Engine exploits and other means that have popped up recently should also be accounted for. Only difference is, those people do not brainwash the community into thinking that they are legit, and some of their hacks are so obvious that it's pathetic to even bother trying to prove that otherwise.

Subject: Re: Does Steam Hack? Sat 19 Sep 2015, 4:52 am

Even if Steam has hacked, would this apply to others who have exploited the game as well(Voluntary or not) in major/or public events??eg:Berserk,Versatile,Censor, and many others

Subject: Re: Does Steam Hack? Sat 19 Sep 2015, 4:54 am

Deception wrote:: Even if Steam has hacked, would this apply to others who have exploited the game as well(Voluntary or not) in major events??eg:Berserk

It applies to everyone who thinks that they will get away with hacking. Like a warning. So if you don't want a whole topic about you, then kindly please look over yourself.

Subject: Re: Does Steam Hack? Sat 19 Sep 2015, 5:28 am

Deception wrote:: Even if Steam has hacked, would this apply to others who have exploited the game as well(Voluntary or not) in major/or public events??eg:Berserk,Versatile,Censor, and many others

I don't do it purposely to get the upper hand in games. :/ I support fair play.

About Steam, it's like asking "Does ice cream taste sweet?" Of course. It's been happening for a long time.

Subject: Re: Does Steam Hack? Sat 19 Sep 2015, 5:40 am

If Steam is found guilty of these crimes which are direct attacks on the integrity of the game by those who play it on a professional level, what shall his punishment be? I can see being banned from ever entering another clan, tournament, and etc.. but will it make any difference?

Subject: Oh my GOSH! - So many DRAMA Sat 19 Sep 2015, 9:50 am

If he isn't moving like this, then this shouldn't be a problem.
https://youtu.be/5nbIA3NPbr8?t=1m19s
Simply, don't play with him if you are so sure. There's nothing you can do about it. Omar doesn't respond, and all you can do is kick from clans and refuse to play.
Haha played in professional level im done.

Subject: Re: Does Steam Hack? Sat 19 Sep 2015, 10:45 am

This has to be the laggiest post I've seen without any of the vids/gifs even playing... Could you perhaps just post the links in the spoiler for the vids instead of embeding them? My browser keeps crashing trying to view the posts, maybe it's just me though.

Subject: Re: Does Steam Hack? Sat 19 Sep 2015, 1:27 pm

There is enough evidence here, not to suggest, but to show that Steam hacks.

I'd also like to point out the lack of reaction from the rest of Elites Reborn when Phyrexian was exposed for using a bot, they weren't shocked or anything. I find that a bit suspicious.

Subject: Re: Does Steam Hack? Fri 25 Sep 2015, 1:39 am

Well then, this shows the two things.

1) Spotted, tracked but not banned yet.
2) Future recurrence of similar activity will not be corrected by the developer either.

so what are we going to do ? Are we really sure the clan he was involved was also involved in infringing the game fairplay? Do we have clearer rules for clan wars then? To encourage fair game play and skill based strategy then maybe a council or team needs to be created to eradicate such things or else the game will commence a slow death. A council that can vet a clan war or a person for fairplay. I think the recent case of catching berserk was a good start. Just my 2 cents suggestion.

Subject: Re: Does Steam Hack? Wed 10 May 2017, 9:11 pm

It has been 2 years. I've missed you guys.