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PostSubject: Stage Competition General   Mon 15 Feb 2016, 8:55 pm

This is a topic that will stay open throughout the lifespan of the Stage Competition.
Here, ideas and concepts will be planned and discussed, hopefully to be included in the next Stage Competition.

In regards to topic location: idfk lmao

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Submissions
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@Kaffeinated wrote:
    stage must be made in the last 3 months
    must not have phallic characteristics
    more rules will be added later because I have no idea what I'm doing

Possible things to change:
  • Require all-new stages for the competition
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Judging
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@Kaffeinated wrote:
Stages will be judged differently based on their TYPE. All judges will use the same cars:

Racing Stages
  • La Vite Crab
  • Drifter X
  • Might Eight
Wasting Stages
  • Wow Caninaro
  • Drifter X
  • El King

If your stage is listed as a "mixed type", we will simply choose ONE of the two types that most fits it.

Possible things to change:
  • Limit the number of certain stage types that can be submitted. For instance, in the last competition we had 12 submitted stages, and only 1 or 2 wasting stages. An alternative would be to have 4 slot for wasting, 4 for mixed, 4 for racing. On top of being more interesting for our judges, it will perhaps encourage people to do something abnormal for them (for instance: people that specialize in a certain stage type and only create those).
  • 3 plays for each stage is perhaps too much, 2 plays with 2 different cars would be sufficient
  • Possible replacements for the judging cars? (input needed)


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Scoring Sheets
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@Kaffeinated wrote:
.mod5Does the .mod fit the stage? Is it obnoxious? Etc.
color scheme10Does the color scheme work well in creating an atmosphere? Does it strain the eye?
turn placement30Is turning fun or is it a chore? Too many turns? Not enough turns?
checkpoint placement20Do you fly by checkpoints after stunting? Are they placed IMMEDIATELY after turns? Does the placement LOOK nice? Etc.
ramp placement20Are the ramps in good locations? Could the locations be better?
obstacle placement15Are the obstacles actually obstacles? How easy is it to avoid them?
repetition(deduct up to 10pts)Do the laps get long and drawn out? Is there replay value?
unnecessary space(deduct up to 10pts)Is there too much EMPTY SPACE in the stage? Do you lose power too much?
carelessness(deduct up to 20pts)How much planning went into the stage? Are pieces not aligned? Does it get cramped? Etc.
100

WASTING
.mod5Does the .mod fit the stage? Is it obnoxious? Etc.
color scheme10Does the color scheme work well in creating an atmosphere? Does it strain the eye?
fix hoop placement40How easy is it to reach a fix hoop? Is it challenging or just BAD PLACEMENT?
ramp placement30Are the ramps in good locations? Could the locations be better?
obstacle placement15Are the obstacles actually obstacles? How easy is it to avoid them?
unnecessary space(deduct up to 20pts)Is the stage SPACED OUT too much?
carelessness(deduct up to 20pts)How much planning went into the stage? Are pieces not aligned? Does it get cramped? Etc.
100

Possible things to change:
  • Bump to 200 maximum points
  • Additional deduction: Novelty (etc fix hoop set hack)
  • Additional deduction: Lack of creativity (pretty broad application here, but something like this would be good)
  • Additional points: layout
  • Sheet for Mixed stage type
  • Add section for the judges to take notes


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Badges
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Badges are small images placed on the Stage Pass to reward the winner. They may be themed depending on the event.
Currently, the general concept of the badge is created by looking at the deduction section of the winner's score sheet and finding the one with the least deductions. Then, a badge is made to not only reflect the area of expertise, but also introduce a theme.
Psychopsilocybin is helping enormously with the competition images' direction and final appearance.

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Schedule
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What the plan is:
  • General competition every 2 or 3 months
  • Special events scattered among them
What sort of things do Special events involve? Heavily themed "General" events. For example, a competition where ORIGINAL NFM 1 and NFM 2 stages are submitted, and judged as if they were just created. Obviously for this, there would be no winner, but it would be a fun activity.
Another idea may be RELEASED version stages. For this one, consent would be needed by the version creator.

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What Next?
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  • Give the guys over on this topic access to the final scoring sheets and possibly jumpstart custom stage use in wars
  • Custom Stage Maker with custom pieces, possible special events centered on that


This post will be updated with more ideas periodically, and will be organized at some point as well.


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PostSubject: Re: Stage Competition General   Mon 15 Feb 2016, 11:40 pm

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Judges
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Anyone on this list can participate as a judge in any competition they choose. Judges must prove themselves as competent.
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Applying?
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Post here or catch me on the chat. If you have a Gmail address, please PM it to me as the scoring sheets we use are on Google Sheets.


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PostSubject: Re: Stage Competition General   Thu 25 Feb 2016, 10:14 pm

I think one every 3 months is suitable if this isn't forgotten.
Also, maybe consider having competitions themed on one type of stage (racing, wasting, mixed.)

-Aile
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PostSubject: Re: Stage Competition General   Fri 26 Feb 2016, 5:14 am

@AileronOwl wrote:
I think one every 3 months is suitable if this isn't forgotten.
Also, maybe consider having competitions themed on one type of stage (racing, wasting, mixed.)

-Aile

3 months is good, yeah. Hmm...themes....hey, if we have one every 3 months there's room for one All, one Racing, one Wasting, and one Mixed.

On a side note, I think I'll work on the special event next month. Since this is every 3 months, and I did the first one at a strange time, we have all the way til June until the next MAIN event.

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PostSubject: Re: Stage Competition General   Fri 26 Feb 2016, 1:29 pm

@AileronOwl wrote:
I think one every 3 months is suitable if this isn't forgotten.
Also, maybe consider having competitions themed on one type of stage (racing, wasting, mixed.)

-Aile

I personally think there should be another type, and I'm thinking of AI compatibility themed.
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PostSubject: Re: Stage Competition General   Fri 26 Feb 2016, 5:49 pm

@Silent wrote:
@AileronOwl wrote:
I think one every 3 months is suitable if this isn't forgotten.
Also, maybe consider having competitions themed on one type of stage (racing, wasting, mixed.)

-Aile

I personally think there should be another type, and I'm thinking of AI compatibility themed.

Like I said before there's four main competitions, we'll stick with that for this year. Special events though, we can have an AI compatible theme, sure. If anyone else has suggestions for special themes post away.

I think I'll also see if I can get some people in that are willing to lead events.

@Kaffeinated wrote:
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PostSubject: Re: Stage Competition General   Fri 26 Feb 2016, 9:05 pm

@Silent wrote:
@AileronOwl wrote:
I think one every 3 months is suitable if this isn't forgotten.
Also, maybe consider having competitions themed on one type of stage (racing, wasting, mixed.)

-Aile

I personally think there should be another type, and I'm thinking of AI compatibility themed.

AI compatibility seems more like a judging factor than a theme. It isn't a bad idea though.

@Kaffeinated wrote:
NOTE: WANT TO BE A JUDGE IN AN UPCOMING COMPETITION? POST POST POST

I'm interested in being a judge in a future competition, so here's a POST POST POST

-Aile
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PostSubject: Re: Stage Competition General   Fri 26 Feb 2016, 9:29 pm

AI will definitely be a judging factor at some point. Any suggestions on how that could be "measured" though? New pieces mess up the AI in spite of any compatibility, so if there are new pieces, they would have to be ignored.
Racing AI is self-explanatory, and the hardest to fix. All that really matters for wasting AI is a good fix point.

Also, I don't know if I brought this up.. we were unable to judge the .mods last competition as we could only find two or three on our own. So for the next competition we will ask you to send the .mod with your stage.
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PostSubject: Re: Stage Competition General   Sat 27 Feb 2016, 8:23 am

@Kaffeinated wrote:


3 months is good, yeah. Hmm...themes....hey, if we have one every 3 months there's room for one All, one Racing, one Wasting, and one Mixed.

On a side note, I think I'll work on the special event next month. Since this is every 3 months, and I did the first one at a strange time, we have all the way til June until the next MAIN event.

NOTE: WANT TO BE A JUDGE IN AN UPCOMING COMPETITION? POST POST POST

I guess I'll take the first opportunity for a judging spot here. Count me in.

~Wake.
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PostSubject: Re: Stage Competition General   Sat 27 Feb 2016, 9:32 am

I would like to participate as judge here.
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PostSubject: Re: Stage Competition General   Sun 28 Feb 2016, 12:58 am

You're on the list!

For anyone else who is interested in applying, refer to this before posting http://aimgames.forummotion.com/t4296-stage-competition-general#411096
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PostSubject: Re: Stage Competition General   Wed 02 Mar 2016, 3:09 pm

I would be willing to be a judge.
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PostSubject: Re: Stage Competition General   Sun 08 May 2016, 10:08 pm

Any ideas as to when the next event will be? Last event was during January & February, I think.

-Aile
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PostSubject: Re: Stage Competition General   Sun 08 May 2016, 10:37 pm

coming up here in june
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PostSubject: Re: Stage Competition General   Sun 08 May 2016, 11:16 pm

Suggestions for Scoring Sheets are welcome!

We require a new sheet for Mixed type, and possible revisions to Racing and Wasting
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